Talk:Chinghiz Aitmatov
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[edit]While expanding the article, I had no intention to honour any country or goverment. I think I didn't.--Goldie C.K. 10:28, 14 Jul 2004 (UTC)
I added links to the online source with texts by Aitmatov and about Aitmatov. Jamilya seems to be the most recognized novel, consider to describe it at Wikipedia; it woulld be good if you read both Russian and English versions before to do it. I see, new and new online sources appear in the web; let us supply the new references as soon as we reveal new links. Evely novel by Aitmatov should be availabe in any language with just few clicks.dima 12:31, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
He is ethnic Tatar.
forwarded request from Aitmatov Academy London
[edit]This was posted by IP: 212.85.7.14 on Talk:Reference Desk, and I have copied it here. I ask the editors of this page to hopefully address these concerns, if valid, and/or email the person in question for source information. SamuelRiv (talk) 07:13, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
My name is Dr.Rahima Abduvalieva. I am the founder of Aitmatov Academy in London. May I reguest you to remove some wrong informations about Chyngyz Aitmatov on the page of Wikipedia?
First of all: Chyngyz Aitmatov won the Lenin Prize not for "Jamilia"! He won this Prize for the selected volume of his works under the title "Povesti gor i stepei" in Russian language. It means "The tales of mountains ans steppes", 1963.
Second mistake: the name of Chyngyz Aitmatov and Ghengis Khan are not the same. Chyngyz Aitmatov didn't like this comparison of two names! I worked with the writer more than 30 years . Please, don't put these two names together. It is a humilitation of personality of the writer!
The third point about plagiarism? Where did you get this type of informations? Could you provide me the sources? I feel very insalted of those type of info, because I know all Aitmatov's creation very well... Could you show me this type of plagiat in his works, which you mind?
I'll be very thankful for your understanding & help... Please let me know about your correction my e-mail: aitmatov.academy4@gmail.com
Sincerely yours
Dr. Rahima Abduvalieva, Director of Aitmatov Academy in LondonNote: actually, it was orginally posted to the WP:RD project page itself by 212.85.7.14, and was therefore removed from it as vandalism. WikiDao ☯ 01:35, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
- Well, Chyngyz and Ghengis appear to be different spellings of the same name. If he was specifically named after Ghengis Khan or if Chyngyz is an unusual name in his community, then the fact is worth mentioning. Jamilia appears to have been part of the larger work The tales of mountains ans steppes which won the prize and Tales should be the one mentioned but is not entirely imcorrect. Once article discussing allegations of plagarism is linked in our text. I will search further on that as well. Rmhermen (talk) 18:33, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
- Kyrgyz: Чыңгыз is a common enough name in Central Asia, and among the Kyrgyz. It is historically the same name as Mongolian: Чингис, the name of "Ghengis" Khan, and in fact in Kyrgyz is used to refer to him as well. It may well be that Aytmatov didn't like being associated with Ghengis Khan, but the name is still one in the same. —Firespeaker (talk) 20:40, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
- If the name is simply a common one, there is no reason to mention the meaning in the article. Rmhermen (talk) 21:10, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
- Kyrgyz: Чыңгыз is a common enough name in Central Asia, and among the Kyrgyz. It is historically the same name as Mongolian: Чингис, the name of "Ghengis" Khan, and in fact in Kyrgyz is used to refer to him as well. It may well be that Aytmatov didn't like being associated with Ghengis Khan, but the name is still one in the same. —Firespeaker (talk) 20:40, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
- I also found reference to "an article published by the newspaper Belyi parokhod about Aitmatovs plagiarism" but could find nothing further on that and it might even be the same as the one we already link to. Rmhermen (talk) 18:45, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
- Since she was good enough to leave her email (shouldn't we redact that from this page, though?), I will email her notification of this discussion in case she would like to participate further in it. WikiDao ☯ 01:28, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
About so-called plagiarism
[edit]I'm moving this paragraph here, till someone presents more authoritative sources, instead of this slander. Besides presented source was in Russian, which contradicts Wikipeda's rule. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Torebay (talk • contribs) 11:09, 31 October 2011 (UTC)
"At the same time, he was often accused of plagiarism. For example, his The Day Lasts More Than a Hundred Years is said to be substantially similar to Yuri Rytkheu's Dream in the Beginning of Fog. Talasbek Asymkulov, a Kazakh writer, recollects of one specific instance when his friend, a son of Tolegen Tokbergenov, asked his father to show his story to Chingiz Aitmatov. In some 2–3 years. the story became a part of Aitmatov's Stormy Station.[11]" — Preceding unsigned comment added by Torebay (talk • contribs) 11:05, 31 October 2011 (UTC)
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Missing chapter
[edit]Dear vikipedia. The book by Chingiz Aitmatov "the day last one hundredd years" was first published in the US in 1983, when the author was still living. The book in a different translation (hebrew) published less than ten years ago, has an extra chapter where one of the characters is being harrassed by the KGB, ends up committing suicide. It is obvious the author kept the chapter from being published, from fear of trouble with the KGB himself. I think this issue should be mentioned in your review of the book. Sincerely, moshe zamir. zamir.moshe@gmail.com 96.225.59.88 (talk) 01:26, 19 November 2022 (UTC)
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