Talk:Mordecai

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One or more of the sign/s: {{NPOV}}{{expansion}}{{Cleanup}} placed on this page without any discussion, explanation or reasoning have been removed pending further discussion. (The category Category:Bible stories is now up for a vote for deletion at Wikipedia:Categories for deletion#Category:Bible stories) Thank you. IZAK 11:18, 18 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Well done. Thanks. JFW | T@lk 12:45, 18 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Moved from Mordechai

I've moved Mordechai to Mordecai. Mordecai is the standard Bible English rendition of the name, Mordechai is merely one of many phonetic spellings of the Hebrew pronunciation. Kuratowski's Ghost 02:25, 18 Mar 2005 (UTC)

I've actually never seen it as Mordecai, only exclusively as Mordechai. Valley2city 06:20, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Heck, me & Mordicai Gerstein spell it "Mordicai". Standarization of spelling is tough sometimes, huh? If "Mordecai" is the standard Bible English spelling (& I think it is?) then it makes more sense to go with that, especially since the move has stood since March 05 without any complaint. --mordicai. 14:41, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It depends on whose bible you use. Well, seeing as I've never read the Christian version of the Bible, maybe that's the case, as the Hebrew Bible uses the "ch". What sound does Mordecai/Mordicai make, a regular "c" or a guttural "ch"? Try googling each of these three and see the results you get:

Mordechai 2,050,000 hits
Mordecai 1,850,000 hits
Mordicai 164,000 hits

Valley2city 15:23, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not really qualified to hold court on the subject (no polyglot me, more is the pity), but I don't disagree that "Mordechai" is a more popular modern spelling. The biblical Mordecai/Mordechai gets the main thrust of the article, however, & I think that accessibility to that topic should be the guide to the nomenclature. Just a quick glance around the bookstore where I work shows Mordecai as the spelling in the NIV, KJV & RSV. --mordicai. 15:42, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The Story

I could very easily be wrong, but I thought that rather than holding a position in court, Mordechai sat in front of the gates so that he could see Esther every day? Also, is it worth including the "what should the king do for a man he wishes to honor" bit, or is that more relevant to Haman? -- Avocado 02:09, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

At the gate of the king's castle usually the leaders sat. Leaders were judges and ministers. Mordecai was one of those leaders. Mordecai was the only leader who did not bow, this means that Mordecai was the Jewish representative at the king's court and he was the one who translated the king's orders to Hebrew. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.180.43.181 (talk) 20:06, 6 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I would be happy if the story section more clearly identified the sources of the ideas. It seems to follow the "Greek additions to Esther" version. Rmhermen (talk) 04:35, 9 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

unsourced

There is a lot of unsourced information on this page, including many opinions and counter-opinions. It would be helpful if editors would try find appropriate sources and refs. I'll try as well. EhadHaam (talk) 05:39, 2 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I couldn’t help but notice that the reference for events in the Book of Esther are sourced from… the Book of Esther. That seems untenable for Wikipedia purposes. NewkirkPlaza (talk) 21:08, 16 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Cousin or niece?

This article says that Mordecai adopts Esther, his orphaned cousin. Does Esther Chapter Two imply that she is actually his niece? ++++ — Preceding unsigned comment added by YTKJ (talk • contribs) 21:48, 10 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Well, adopting his own niece is not something out of the ordinary. Family takes care of family, if parents die and their children are young. tgeorgescu (talk) 03:21, 11 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I reread the chapter just now; it's possible to have a cousin outside your own generation rather than like your cousin peers. I think this is what is being implied when it says he raised her as his own daughter, not that he was actually her uncle. My translation clearly says cousin, so I think the article is accurate in stating that. Deliusfan (talk) 15:44, 27 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]