Talk:List of premiers of Ontario

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The 1985-87 government was not a coalition.

-I agree with the above. The NDP had agreed under an accord to support the Liberals in their attempt to form a government by showing the house did not have confidence in the Miller government. After Peterson was asked by the Lt Governor to form the government, the NDP remained in opposition. --Mphilp 14:21, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

14 Feb 2005 colour change

Does anyone think that this change has made the table easier to read? With the blues being very close to the colour of wikilinked text, it is very hard to read on my monitor, and, I suspect, those of other people. Why do we want to make Wikipedia harder to read? Kevintoronto 13:40, 14 Feb 2005 (UTC)

I certainly don't. While the colour change is more in line with the "official" colours of the political parties, it's made it a lot harder to look at. The colours look harsh, especially on a bright monitor. I'd be in full favour of bringing it back to the original colour scheme. --Deathphoenix 15:09, 14 Feb 2005 (UTC)

I reverted back to the original "easier on the eyes" version. --Deathphoenix 18:34, 14 Feb 2005 (UTC)

For being hard to read, it's funny those same colours are used in almost all charts that list the parties. ex federal election, provincial elections. Its used in sask, and bc premier lists. 216.110.225.46

Yes, but those charts were never published on Wikipedia for display on the typical computer monitor. There is no value added by using the exact same colour, and the lighter colours serve just as well. --Deathphoenix 03:19, 17 Feb 2005 (UTC)

I have been arguing for some time that those charts should also use colours that are easier to read, but there seem to be people who insist on changing them to darker colours for reasons they never seem to try to justify, just as our anonymous editor here provides no justification. I don't think that making theis chart as illegible as certain others is a strong argument. Political articles on Wikipedia should be about conveying information, rather than painting pretty but meaningless pictures. Also, in the elections articles, the PC blue and Liberal lightcoral are interspersed between other lighter colours, so it is not quite so hard to read as here where there is almost a solid block of blue and coral. The Wikipedia style guide is clear on the issue:

Use colour sparingly. Computers and browsers vary: you cannot know how much colour is presented on the recipient's machine if any. Wikipedia is international: colours have different meaning in different cultures. Too many colours on one page make them look cluttered and unencyclopedic. Use the colour red only for alerts and warnings.

Kevintoronto 14:03, 17 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Length of tenure?

Can someone add a "length of tenure" column? I can't figure out how to edit the template. 69.158.42.160 (talk) 18:04, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

• I actually prefer the lengths in their own table. It lets us sort the table by length, it lets us add a comments section like in List of Prime Ministers of Canada by time in office where we can specifically talk about how they gained and lost power, and it leaves us room to add other trivia as sort-able columns, like how long there were an MP or how long they lived. I think the main tables are about as cramped as they should be. —Arctic Gnome (talk • contribs) 22:48, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

I agree but User:117 appears to have launched an AFD against the original article with the outcome being consensus to merge. He has subsequently appeared to attempt to frustrate any attempt to merge. Hopefully he will behave from now on or I am prepared to start an RFC about his behaviour which borders on vandalism. Perhaps, Arctic Gnome, you can start a process to have the original AFD overturned and the article(s) restored given that "length of time in office" tables/articles are pretty standard in Wikipedia for offices such as president, PM, Premier etc. Downwoody (talk) 17:42, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

The dates of tenure are unreferenced, any length of tenure is original research. 117Avenue (talk) 05:18, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

The dates are now referenced as per the Legislative Assembly of Ontario website. Please do not remove the table again. Downwoody (talk) 17:39, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

As I have explained in the past, no edits were made to the lists during the week long discussion, or the week after. Therefore I believe that consensus was achieved. In the nicest tone possible; I object to your accusation of vandalism. Like all the pages I patrol, I watch for the addition of unreferenced content, and provide an edit summary in accordance with WP:FIES when reverting. I have made many attempts to get people's attention to the lack of references on this article (off the top of my head [1][2][3]), so I would like to sincerely thank-you for doing something that I have continuously failed at, find a good reference. My Wikipedia motto is "I don't mind being wrong, if it means a better article is written." Now that this content is properly referenced, I support the creation of a separate article for the length list. 117Avenue (talk) 03:21, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

• I have to agree with 117Avenue. Venerability is one of the encyclopedia's three core policies; if no one can find a reference after a few weeks' notice, the information has to be removed (or moved to someone's userspace). Now that the information is referenced, the tenures page can be re-created. —Arctic Gnome (talk • contribs) 04:03, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

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