Talk:German Labour Front

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Deutschen Arbeitsfront

Source for the correct spelling of Deutschen Arbeitsfront: Hitler's last testament In German: http://www.ne.jp/asahi/masa/private/history/ww2/text/politisches.html -- Philip Baird Shearer 15:28, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)

And what exactly makes you think Hitler had time to proofread his work? I don't know German - perhaps it's a contextual thing.

It's genitive, think "Leiter der Deutschen Arbeitsfront" = "German Labour Front's Leader". There are at least four cases in the German language, so be careful to use words from German texts out of context. A very good source for at least the major people and things from back then is the LeMO (Lebendiges virtuelles Museum Online) at http://www.dhm.de/lemo/home.html. See http://www.dhm.de/lemo/html/nazi/organisationen/daf/ there. --Yooden

Numbers

It says "Membership required a fee within the range of 15 pfennig to 3 reichsmark ... In 1934, the total intake was 300,000,000 reichsmark". Even today if every German pays 3 reichsmark, that would be a total of 247,314,000 reichsmark. --Chochopk 09:34, 21 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Free and diverse

Was the DAF really a medium for free and diverse labor unions? I think not, but I´d like to check with you all before editing.--ZgB 17:17, 17 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Problem with the AS level link

Firstly, Life in Nazi Germany is on Unit 2M; not unit 3

Secondly, the link is broken.

I'm in school so I can't fix this right now. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.23.30.190 (talk) 16:34, 14 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Alleged Corruption of Repressed Unions

I was very surprised to read that the German Labour Front "replaced the Weimar Republic trade unions because of rampant corruption in the existing unions" – with no citation, and especially with the word "alleged" deleted from an earlier version. The long-standing Nazi antipathy to the Weimar unions, in particular to the unions affiliated to the ADGB (which Hitler, in Mein Kampf called the "ram of the SPD for the destruction of the national economy"), had little to do with alleged corruption. Hitler, again in Mein Kampf, asserted that only National Socialist unions would be allowed in a Nazi-ruled Germany. For the Nazi destruction of the Weimar unions in January to July 1933, see ^[1]. The German Labour Front was able to replace the Weimar unions only after the arrest and detention of the staff and leadership of ADGB on May 2, using the Nazis plenary powers under the Enabling Act. Peterscameron (talk) 19:31, 12 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Gerard Braunthal, Socialist Labor and Politics in Weimar Germany: The General Federation of German Trade Unions (Hamden, CT: Archon Books, 1978)

Capitalist and Liberal? The Nazis were Socialists

After reading this article and all of the details about what the union offered, including the fact that the union was an official part of the government, there is no way that these guys were capitalists, at least by American right wing standards. All of the terms of their unions would give Republicans a headache. To assert that these guys had anything to do with capitalism is a pretty nice try at connecting the Nazis to capitalism and the right wing, but it is an utter lie. All of the things in their philosophy were decidedly anti-capitalist according to modern, American Republican capitalists on the right wing. The Nazis were famous for opposing the communists, so they sought a middle road between capitalism and communism. They wanted to keep ownership in the hands of private individuals, but to have the state dictating important aspects of the economy. They are the people who most accurately described themselves: National Socialists. It was socialism designed to advance the state (Germany), and not part of the international worker's revolution. All of this needs to be stated in the article, or else liberals will walk away thinking these guys were capitalists. This is a nice try at the idea that "the Nazis were socialists in name only," which isn't true. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.169.107.173 (talk) 23:28, 22 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

You need to provide sources, not speculation, so I will remove your edit. Capitalism is an economic system where by definition ownership is in the hands of private individuals. Having the state dictate aspects of the economy, particularly during wartime, does not preclude a system being capitalist. TFD (talk) 03:23, 27 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Yes it does. In capitalism we don't have state dictatorship over the economy. This state dictatorship is even de facto state ownership. 92.192.36.230 (talk) 07:50, 4 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

State ownership over the means of production does not in and of itself make an economy socialist. Were that the case, most if not all nations of the world would be socialist. Even a command economy does not necessarily entail this. Docktuh (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 04:31, 23 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I find 'State ownership over the means of production' is quite literally constantly listed as the main characteristic of socialism. Perhaps by that very definition, more countries do indeed fall into that category suggesting perhaps that the paradigm is infact further left in general. 2A0A:EF40:223:CB01:A198:FD69:E4E6:66CB (talk) 05:26, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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"US Dollars"

"In US dollars, the annual income from dues to the Labour Front came to $160,000,000 in 1937 and $200,000,000 by 1939."

So is that 2024 dollars, 1930s dollars, 1960 dollars (when Shirer published his book), or dollars at whatever date the Wikipedia entry was written? Rather important information. 2A02:AA1:114C:3346:B119:2E5E:6910:BD8F (talk) 11:10, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not to mention that the membership dues would have been paid in Reichsmark. So the whole conversion to USD is pretty moot for an international encyclopedia. --Soman (talk) 11:27, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

[1] Gerard Braunthal, Socialist Labor and Politics in Weimar Germany: The General Federation of German Trade Unions (Hamden, CT: Archon Books, 1978)

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