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Obama incident
[edit]First, we do not allow original research, so it does not matter if you are a student and know the real story. We need citations from reliable sources, and at least the hits from the first page of a Google search tend to indicate "effigy" and not a joke.
- Effigy of Obama alarms George Fox campus
- George Fox suspends 4 students over Obama effigy
- Obama effigy found hanging at George Fox University
- George Fox University: Christians Lynch Barack Obama in Effigy
- What Was Motive Behind Obama Effigy on Campus? (indecently they borrowed my pic)
- Obama effigy found in Oregon shows ugly side of Northwest
- Students identified in Obama cutout incident
- Obama Cutout Hanged in Effigy Stuns Students
- Four students suspended at George Fox over Obama stunt
- Obama effigy hung from tree at George Fox
So, eight of ten use effigy in the story title, and only the GFU press release does not use the term effigy. Thus we need to go with effigy. Aboutmovies (talk) 05:54, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
- First of all, a disclosure: I am a non-traditional student at George Fox, although I am more interested in accurate representation. As another individual who removed the term "effigy" from the story (although, not the person who called it a joke), but rephrased the statement to be a bit more neutral, I will explain why I did so. Effigy is the correct term for this as it was a representation, however "in effigy" isn't (IMO). In effigy implies that the students were hanging the cardboard cutout instead of Barak, although the media outlets (starting with Oregonlive.com) did not have any knowledge of the motives, or even a photo of the hanging, as a photo was not released, and the perpetrators were not known when news broke out. Most of the news on the subject is related to the initial incident, and is more sensationalist than anything else, as the students turning themselves in and punishment are not nearly as covered or mentioned. As such, most news agencies had Oregonlive's story to begin with, and the knowledge that the wording brought in viewers. It was an interpretation. My understanding was that the cutout was attached with fishing line under the armpit and around the neck, as a means of attaching to the tree, although I have not heard any official account of how the string was attached. It was ill conceived and stupid of the 4 students, but as the FBI has not brought charges and the police didn't think any hate-crime had been committed, the term "in effigy" (which does imply a hate crime) was not as accurate, and definitely "lynch" (as said by other articles in that list) is not accurate. LifeIsPain (talk) 21:35, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
Internal Statements Regarding 2019 Lip-Sync Incident
[edit]Hello, I recently added a brief description regarding internal George Fox University statements stemming from the public coming-out of a gay student at a university-sponsored event. These events do not currently have publically accessible sources as of this message, but all included quotes are verbatim from internal letters. Is this a reasonable addition to make in this light? (The added text is included below:)
On November 20, 2019, the Associated Student Community (ASC) of George Fox University, the student government organization on campus, sent out an internal e-mail to students in which ASC expressed support for a student who had publicly came out as gay at a university-sponsored event on November 16. The letter specified that "We, as the ASC Executive Council, want to be as explicitly clear as possible that we affirm LGBTQIA+ students in particular and all students in general ... There is a dire need to create conversations that have been silenced for long enough." The following day, the Office of Robin Baker sent out a similar internal email to students, expressing that "...Faculty and staff serve [at George Fox] because they love all students and it is my hope that [students] have felt the consistent care of this community." This letter also expressed that "George Fox is a Christian Community that holds that God intended sexual relations to be reserved for a marriage relationship between a man and a woman ... It is my hope that this university will continue to be a place where robust and respectful conversations along with the active pursuit of God's truth will flourish."
(209.170.255.14 (talk) 01:40, 22 November 2019 (UTC))
- In a word, no. If there's no significant coverage, the content doesn't belong here. That's what I explained in the note left at your talk page, along with the suggestion that you read WP:COI. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 01:44, 22 November 2019 (UTC)
- To elaborate, it would be especially inappropriate to publish internal correspondence in an encyclopedia, until that correspondence had become public and received significant coverage from multiple WP:RELIABLE sources. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 01:50, 22 November 2019 (UTC)
George Fox School of Theology
[edit]Is it a faculty among several, or an alternative name for the entire GFU? See for instance this mention. Arminden (talk) 10:22, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
- I have just created a redirect for George Fox School of Theology to George Fox University. You can adapt it if you know the answer to my question, for instance create a "George Fox School of Theology" section (with anchor) and refine the redirect accordingly ("George Fox University#George Fox School of Theology" as target). Arminden (talk) 10:27, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
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