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Personnel

What a disaster! Someone listed every two-bit player who ever grunted on stage in some sort of Badfinger line-up? Why not list all the roadies as well; that should completely muddy up the waters. ZincOrbie (talk) 03:00, 27 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I think somebody's uncle is in there.--andreasegde (talk) 10:04, 27 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Sense has prevailed.--andreasegde (talk) 15:13, 28 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It wasn't me that did it... but I was wondering... should it be updated as Joey Molland still tours as Badfinger, even if we may or may not agree with the decision? http://www.badfingersite.com/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.76.35.254 (talk) 21:36, 18 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The focus should be on the classic lineup and their formative years as The Iveys along with Jackson as they were breaking up around 1975. The Molland Badfinger can mention Jackson but the other band members are forgettable. The article doesn't even list Mike Gibbins birthday with a redirect for him back to this page. 22yearswothanks (talk) 19:57, 6 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Just because Joey Tours as BadFinger certainly doesn't mean he IS BadFinger. I guess he just owns the Band name. Joey Molland is NOT BadFinger in the same sense that Paul McCartney is NOT the Beatles. albabe - The Writer/Artist Formally Known as Al Gordon 16:33, 19 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Re-recorded hits

This article, as well as the article on Joey Molland, omits the fact that Molland re-recorded most if not all of the group's hits in Nashville in 1994. He sang the songs; members Ham and Evans had sung the originals. The line-up of musicians was to my knowledge never disclosed. These newly recorded, but inauthentic and inferior, singles were sold individually and released on at least one album. The singles were marketed aggressively, resulting in placement on Amazon singles lists and many "Greatest Hits of the 70's" type cassettes and CD's, causing the newly recorded songs to replace the original versions and become ubiquitous. This is an important part of the story to tell. 50.54.224.72 (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 13:14, 8 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I quite agree, That is quite important. Do you have any sources for this information? Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 13:55, 21 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I agree!!! Please site the sources for all this! I think some of this is reported in Dan Matovina's Biography of BadFinger.

albabe - The Writer/Artist Formally Known as Al Gordon 16:48, 19 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Day After Day Producer Credit

I added Todd as CoProducer of Day After Day. There are many Interviews where he describes what George and He did. Todd had them ReRecord the Drums and Other things and Mixed it.

http://www.angelfire.com/nv/Badfinger/todd.html

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/earshot/breaking-bad-swan-song-producer-639992

albabe - The Writer/Artist Formally Known as Al Gordon 16:31, 19 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The problem is that is not what the sources say. If we look at a scan from the actual single (see here) it says produced by Harrison. Karst (talk) 17:22, 19 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Slang ?

If we're going to pick holes in the syntax by objecting to 'see-sawed', how about that absurd 'floundered'? It's possible that 'foundered' is what was intended, but who knows. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:44B8:3102:BB00:7855:4709:4998:D4E3 (talk) 06:28, 2 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Associated acts

The infobox includes Nicky Hopkins, who isn't mentioned in the article; John Lennon, whose connections seem pretty remote (his finger was the one which inspired his name, a couple of members played on sessions for his album but their work was not used). Also a couple of non-notable acts only connected by having some members in common. I will remove them. -- Beardo (talk) 01:31, 25 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Ron Griffith

Ron Griffith seems to me to be neglected in this article. I’d like to know what he did after leaving Badfinger. TheScotch (talk) 03:29, 22 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Early '80s chronology

The article text describes the Say No More line-up of Tom Evans/Joey Molland/Glenn Sherba/Tony Kaye/Richard Bryans. It then continues, saying, "After the failure of Say No More, Molland and Evans operated rival touring bands, each using the name "Badfinger", during 1982 and 1983". However, the citation given doesn't mention any of this.

Then, in the Members table, which doesn't have any citations at all, it says, "1981–1984 Two variations of Badfinger in existence." It then specifies a 1981 line-up for Molland's Badfinger (Joey Molland/Joe Tansin/Larry Lee/Bobby Wickland), a revised line-up for 1982, another for 1983, and so on. It then also gives line-up for Evans and Gibbins' version of the band, beginning in 1982 with Bob Evans/Jimmy McCullogh/Steve Johns/Tom Evans/Mike Gibbins, and going through to 1983 (when of course Evans committed suicide).

The Members table saying 1981-4 appears wrong in so far as the period in question clearly ends in 1983. But is it wrong to start in 1981? Or is the main text wrong to say this period of 2 bands is just 1982-3?

Meanwhile, I note the Jay Schellen article says, "In 1982, Schellen was invited to join English pop band Badfinger joining Tommy Evans, Joey Molland, Glen Sherba and Yes keyboardist Tony Kaye." I've seen both Schellen and Kaye talk about Schellen playing with Badfinger. For example, this new interview has Schellen talking about playing with the band, and recording a session with Evans and Molland. He says, on being prompted, that the session was in 1982. This citation has Schellen joining an Evans/Molland/Kaye line-up, but doesn't give a date.

Can anyone clarify what happened in this 1981-4 period and/or provide more citations? Bondegezou (talk) 19:25, 7 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

In the absence of any input, I've changed the 1981-4 to 1982-3 and added a cn tag further down. Bondegezou (talk) 10:58, 9 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

1986-1990 Molland and Gibbins lineup?

Hi everyone, I was taking a quick ski through this article again, and I was wondering why we don't credit 1986-1990 as a legitimate Badfinger lineup with Molland and Gibbins? Two members makes it more legitimate than Molland's versions of Badfinger in 1982-ish and since 1990, correct? Thanks!! EPBeatles (talk) 04:51, 3 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Bob Evans

I have removed the name Bob Evans as I can find no sources that support him being a full member of the band, especially in their early classic line-up. If there are any sources by all means share them here and/ or use them to restore him to the article. Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 16:14, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]