Talk:Portobello, Edinburgh

This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the Portobello, Edinburgh article.
This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject.

Put new text under old text. Click here to start a new topic.
New to Wikipedia? Welcome! Learn to edit; get help.

Article policies

Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL

Scotland Low‑importance

	Scotland portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Scotland, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Scotland and Scotland-related topics on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.ScotlandWikipedia:WikiProject ScotlandTemplate:WikiProject ScotlandScotland articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

Edinburgh C‑class High‑importance

	This article is within the scope of WikiProject Edinburgh, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Edinburgh on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.EdinburghWikipedia:WikiProject EdinburghTemplate:WikiProject EdinburghEdinburgh articles
C	This article has been given a rating which conflicts with the project-independent quality rating in the banner shell. Please resolve this conflict if possible.
High	This article has been rated as High-importance on the project's importance scale.

Hello,

As a Porty Resident I have added a link to the Community Website

Please feel free to discuss any additions.

Thanks.

info

hi I am seeking any information on portobello, i work with a man who emigrated to australia from portobello when he was young.he asked me to look on pc and try to find someinfo..havent found too much..wonder if any one has pics etc..his name is mc farlane.any feedback would be appreciated...thanks denise

<hi from Sweden,

I have a remote connection with Portobello. My Grandmother was born about 1890 . She grew up in Liljedal a place in Sweden where her father worked in the glassworks. Before she was born her family was allocated to Portobello for some time as they recruited Swedish Glassworkers who where very skilled. I visited the library in Portobello and found some information about the Swedish glassworkers. I would like to know if anybody knows anything about them or if maybe they left some trace maybe a child or a family that stayed on when the others returned to Sweden. anytyhing like that would be of interest. thanks SJ

Porty Rugby Club

This is following on from a discussion at http://porty.org.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?p=37285.

User:81.154.95.163 added a link to http://portyrugby.com/ a number of times, which I reverted with the summary "reduce links" the first time, "rv link - WP:EL" the second and simply "rv" the third time. Wikipedia is not a mere collection of external links, it is not a web directory: WP:ISNOT, WP:EL.

Thanks/wangi 09:19, 6 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Portobello community website

As an administrator of Portobello Online I have updated the link for our community website.

Portobello power station !!!

Surely somebody could add some info on this —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.104.170.71 (talk) 21:02, 5 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

OK. I have now done so. I remember this power station well. Heavens knows why they built it virtually in a town rather than out in the sticks. Regards, David Lauder 11:03, 7 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Turn of the century pic

This photo of the beach may be of interest:

http://hdl.loc.gov/loc.pnp/pp.pgz

©Geni 13:07, 20 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It was and its in commons Victuallers (talk) 17:19, 22 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

External links modified

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just modified one external link on Portobello, Edinburgh. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:

Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20110827184800/http://spns.org.uk/PNsMIDLOTHIANv3.pdf to http://www.spns.org.uk/PNsMIDLOTHIANv3.pdf

When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.

This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}} (last update: 5 June 2024).

If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 18:13, 4 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Figgate Burn

The article says the Figgate Burn flows from Duddingston Loch to the sea. I don't think this is right - it starts off as the Braid Burn and changes name to Figgate at Duddingston. The Duddingston Loch waters appear to connect at Duddingston but the main flow is from the Braid.Sebmelmoth (talk) 09:59, 2 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Buses?

Apart from showing the amazing number of Porty buses - is this good material for Wikipedia? I don't expect to find it here.Sebmelmoth (talk) 12:55, 11 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I've taken it out and given a link instead. I hope there won't be a storm of protest. Bmcln1 (talk) 17:10, 11 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, that is a more helpful text.Sebmelmoth (talk) 09:32, 13 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Boundary

Are there agreed boundaries for Portobello and Duddingston?

Sebmelmoth (talk) 08:50, 11 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Town Hall History

Is there scope for a fuller note on the various Town Halls? The current text says: "Portobello Town Hall fell into redundancy when Portobello was placed under the jurisdiction of Edinburgh and the building was converted into a cinema in 1912 by Robert Lorimer and Robert Matthew.[8] On the demise of cinemas in the 1970s the building returned to council ownership and was renamed as Portobello Town Hall again. It is a venue for functions but despite its name has no town–hall function."

But the HES description for its B Listing is a bit different:

"The plans date from July 1912, detailed drawings from October 1912 and January 1913, and seating plans, from July 1914. It was intended as a public hall for meetings and performances. Bronze plaques to either side of main entrance: "This foundation stone was laid by the Right honourable sir William S Brown Lord Provost on 25th October 1912 Councillor James Moscrip Convenor on the plans and works committee, Bailie Carmichael, Councillors Robert Killoch and Thomas Adams Representatives of Portobello ward."; and "This building was opened by the Right Honourable Robert Kirk Inches Lord Provost on 30th October 1914, Bailie James Stewart Convenor of the plans and works committee, Bailie Carmichael Counsellors Hastie and Adams Representatives of Portobello ward, James A Williamson ARIBA Architect." The plans were submitted, by the City, for the approval of the Dean of Guild on 12th October 1912, and a electrical transformer house was applied for in May 1913; a heating chamber was built in November 1933; alterations were made in August 1982."

Is this a muddle of the 2/3 town halls? Or am I muddled? Sebmelmoth (talk) 15:12, 14 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed merger with South Portobello

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.

The result of this discussion was South Portobello was merged with Portobello. CPClegg (talk) 08:17, 12 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I have proposed a merger with South Portobello. A search of the page's citations and other resources provides little evidence South Portobello is any more a distinctive neighbourhood than North, East, or West Portobello would be.

None of the sources cited on the South Portobello page name South Portobello. On a wider search, the only refrence I can find to "SoPo" is "SoPo Village Green" on Google Earth, which is otherwise rather mysterious and, given the laxity of editorial control on Google Earth, not a good source anyway.

The points on Palette and St John's Primary could be moved to the Portobello page; though the claim that St John's "welcomes children of all denominations and beliefs" is not supported by the source. Otherwise, statements in the article are unsupported, false, or, in the case of Cherry Trees Nursery, simply not notable.CPClegg (talk) 01:04, 5 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. I have never heard of South Portobello as a distinct place. It makes no sense for it to have its own article. Mike Marchmont (talk) 13:30, 5 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Support the merger. Likewise, I've never heard of South Portobello as a distinct place and the online sources do not support it. Coldupnorth (talk) 17:34, 5 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

There is no material in "South Portobello" worth retaining by a merger - the page should be deleted. Sebmelmoth (talk) 16:48, 8 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, Sebmelmoth, we have consensus but it's usual to wait a week from the first post so I'll complete the merger on Wednesday.CPClegg (talk) 17:41, 9 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved It's been a week since the discussion opened and, absent any support for retaining South Portobello, we can go ahead with the merger. CPClegg (talk) 08:06, 12 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Nonsense

I've lived in the area west of the railway for 35 years: there is no concept, whatsoever, of South Portobello. The local authority Ward 14 is Portobello and Craigmillar. The South Portobello page is nonsense and should be deleted. Sebmelmoth (talk) 08:48, 5 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]