Talk:Paweł Adamowicz
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Jewish/Jewish ancestry?
[edit]Is Paweł Adamowicz of Jewish extraction? Or was he an ethnic Pole? 2601:8C:4500:4680:C06:4B40:FC36:410A (talk) 19:56, 14 January 2019 (UTC)
– As far as I know there is nothing to suggest that he had any recent Jewish ancestors. Why would you ask about that? 78.11.96.166 (talk) 11:48, 15 January 2019 (UTC) gdynianin
Wikipedia does that for most anyone who does. I haven't seen anything to suggest that he does, though. 2601:8C:4104:49AF:7941:6804:CBA1:DE92 (talk) 03:14, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
So, it is important to establish if every person that gets murdered is of Jewish extraction or not? Reeks of bias of some kind. On another hand, I don't think there's an ethnic Pole without at least 1/1024th of Jewish blood, so what would be even a point to such question? Jews were welcome in Poland for centuries and up until XXth century people just... lived with it. Which undoubtedly included sex. 89.75.169.132 (talk) 16:21, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
Stop saying bullshits, ethnic Poles haven't jewish blood. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.44.28.235 (talk) 00:16, 17 January 2019 (UTC)
- Yeah, sure. Dig deep enough and most certainly you will find some German, Ruthenian and Jewish ancestors, maybe also Greek, Armenian and Tatar, for every single ethnic Pole. Well, you would, if you could trace back two digits of generations. Nothing bad and nothing strange about this. Poland was multicultural , multiethnical and multireligious society for more than half a millenium. Current homogeneity is a result of remorseless, enforced migration, an artificial social project of communists. 89.75.169.132 (talk) 08:05, 17 January 2019 (UTC)
- You can't prove he wasn't jewish. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.193.204.183 (talk) 18:43, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
- This section should be removed. This is not a forum.Xx236 (talk) 12:12, 17 January 2019 (UTC)
- This question takes root in an alt-right antisemitic Polish propaganda meme called "true names of Polish elite", where various notable people usually from the centrist left are assigned fake Jewish names, often citing fake sources that are irrelevant, impossible to access or inexistant. I suggest deletion, or linking to articles on equivalent propaganda used in historical conflicts. 79.189.136.246 (talk) 05:06, 18 January 2019 (UTC)
being endorsed by the Civic Platform
[edit]Half-truth. He won Jarosław Wałęsa.Xx236 (talk) 08:49, 17 January 2019 (UTC)
- a vocal critic of the ruling Law and Justice party - Law and Justice didn't rule Gdańsk. Your BBC propaganda source is disgusting. Bold letters for illiterate readers. Xx236 (talk) 12:55, 17 January 2019 (UTC)
- but they do rule Poland, which is what the article was supposed to mean (probably) 78.11.96.166 (talk) 08:03, 18 January 2019 (UTC) gdynianin
- Adamowicz was a mayor, so the area of his conflict with Law and Justice was limited. Your ideas of Poland are totalitarian, which is propaganda.
- The Platform attacked Adamowicz before the elections, which should be mentioned.Xx236 (talk) 08:43, 18 January 2019 (UTC)
Is immigration progressive?
[edit]Who defines, what is progressive? Are poorly educated immigrants progressive? Are ghetto-like communities progressive? Xx236 (talk) 11:43, 18 January 2019 (UTC)
- Your non existing point? He can be a progressive whatever his immigration policy is. Generally the term only implies seeking to improve society to a new, better state. So your rant about immigration is off topic. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.104.1.137 (talk) 21:51, 18 January 2019 (UTC)
- Xx236, if what you mean is that the use of the word "progressive" in the context of this article is not specific enough or vague that would be worth disscussing, otherwise I am unsure what you are trying to say. —T.E.A. (Talk•Edits) 16:00, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
- It's in the lead He was known as a liberal, progressive figure, speaking in support of LGBT rights, immigration, and minority groups such as Kashubians. Xx236 (talk) 11:23, 28 March 2019 (UTC)
- I agree, that sentence is part of the lead. I'm still unsure what your main argument is. If your main argument is that the use of the term progressive alongside immigrant support seems contradictory, please clearly say so, if your argument is something, please also clearly say so. —T.E.A. (Talk•Edits) 14:17, 28 March 2019 (UTC)
Excessive linking to generic terms and topics
[edit]As of the time that I am writing this the page currently looks like this. When I originally noticied the problem I removed some links in this edit. Since then I have noticied more unnecessary links and seen some new unneeded links added. Examples of what I mean by unneeded links include the links of "assassination" in the lead, "charity" in third paragraph, "democracy" and "patron" in the Career section. I would consider each to fall under the criteria of "Everyday words understood by most readers in context" found at MOS:OL. Since the problem seems fairly prevelant on this article I wannted to directly address it to make clear my opinions and to inform other editors of the problem. If no one has any objections to the aformentioned, then I will remove the links I see as unnecessary in 12 hours, or sooner if some supports my statements. —T.E.A. (Talk•Edits) 16:50, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
- It has been plenty more than 12 hours at this point and I am going to go forward with edits I proposed now. If anyone has any objections, please place them here for organizational purposes, rather than in an edit summary when undoing my edits. —T.E.A. (Talk•Edits) 18:47, 20 January 2019 (UTC)
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