Talk:Bernie Sanders

Skip to table of contents

This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the Bernie Sanders article.
This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject.

Put new text under old text. Click here to start a new topic.
New to Wikipedia? Welcome! Learn to edit; get help.

Article policies

Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL

Archives: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24: 30 days

Warning: active arbitration remedies

The contentious topics procedure applies to this article. This article is related to post-1992 politics of the United States and closely related people, which is a contentious topic. Furthermore, the following rules apply when editing this article:

You must follow the bold-revert-discuss cycle if your change is reverted. You may not reinstate your edit until you post a talk page message discussing your edit and have waited 24 hours from the time of this talk page message

Editors who repeatedly or seriously fail to adhere to the purpose of Wikipedia, any expected standards of behaviour, or any normal editorial process may be blocked or restricted by an administrator. Editors are advised to familiarise themselves with the contentious topics procedures before editing this page.

Further information

Enforcement procedures:

Violations of any of these restrictions should be reported immediately to the arbitration enforcement noticeboard.
Editors who are aware of this topic being designated a contentious topic and who violate these restrictions may be sanctioned by any uninvolved administrator, even on a first offense.

The contentious topics procedure can be used against any editor who repeatedly or seriously fails to adhere to the purpose of Wikipedia, any expected standards of behaviour, or any normal editorial process. Contentious topics sanctions can include blocks, topic-bans, or other restrictions.

If you are unsure if your edit is appropriate, discuss it here on this talk page first. Remember: When in doubt, don't revert!

Discussions on this page often lead to previous arguments being restated. Please read recent comments and look in the archives before commenting.

This article is written in American English, which has its own spelling conventions (color, defense, traveled) and some terms that are used in it may be different or absent from other varieties of English. According to the relevant style guide, this should not be changed without broad consensus.

Bernie Sanders was a Social sciences and society good articles nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There may be suggestions below for improving the article. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.

Article milestones
Date	Process	Result
August 26, 2015	Good article nominee	Not listed
August 28, 2015	Good article nominee	Not listed

Current status: Former good article nominee

This article must adhere to the biographies of living persons (BLP) policy, even if it is not a biography, because it contains material about living persons. Contentious material about living persons that is unsourced or poorly sourced must be removed immediately from the article and its talk page, especially if potentially libellous. If such material is repeatedly inserted, or if you have other concerns, please report the issue to this noticeboard.

If you are a subject of this article, or acting on behalf of one, and you need help, please see this help page.

This page is about a politician who is running for office or has recently run for office, is in office and campaigning for re-election, or is involved in some current political conflict or controversy. For that reason, this article is at increased risk of biased editing, talk-page trolling, and simple vandalism.

Biography: Politics and Government

	Biography portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Biography, a collaborative effort to create, develop and organize Wikipedia's articles about people. All interested editors are invited to join the project and contribute to the discussion. For instructions on how to use this banner, please refer to the documentation.BiographyWikipedia:WikiProject BiographyTemplate:WikiProject Biographybiography articles
	This article is supported by the politics and government work group (assessed as Top-importance).

Socialism Mid‑importance

	Socialism portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Socialism, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of socialism on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.SocialismWikipedia:WikiProject SocialismTemplate:WikiProject Socialismsocialism articles
Mid	This article has been rated as Mid-importance on the project's importance scale.

Chicago Mid‑importance

	Chicago portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Chicago, which aims to improve all articles or pages related to Chicago or the Chicago metropolitan area.ChicagoWikipedia:WikiProject ChicagoTemplate:WikiProject ChicagoChicago articles
Mid	This article has been rated as Mid-importance on the project's importance scale.

United States: Presidential elections / Government / Vermont Mid‑importance

	United States portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject United States, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of topics relating to the United States of America on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the ongoing discussions. Template Usage Articles Requested! Become a Member Project Talk Alerts United StatesWikipedia:WikiProject United StatesTemplate:WikiProject United StatesUnited States articles
Mid	This article has been rated as Mid-importance on the project's importance scale.
	This article is supported by WikiProject U.S. presidential elections (assessed as High-importance).
	This article is supported by WikiProject U.S. Government (assessed as High-importance).
	Vermont portal This article is supported by WikiProject Vermont (assessed as High-importance).

U.S. Congress High‑importance

	United States portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject U.S. Congress, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of the United States Congress on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.U.S. CongressWikipedia:WikiProject U.S. CongressTemplate:WikiProject U.S. CongressU.S. Congress articles
High	This article has been rated as High-importance on the project's importance scale.
	This article is about one (or many) person(s).

Politics: American Mid‑importance

	Politics portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Politics, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of politics on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.PoliticsWikipedia:WikiProject PoliticsTemplate:WikiProject Politicspolitics articles
Mid	This article has been rated as Mid-importance on the project's importance scale.
	This article is supported by American politics task force (assessed as High-importance).

Civil Rights Movement Low‑importance

This article is within the scope of WikiProject Civil Rights Movement, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Civil Rights Movement on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.Civil Rights MovementWikipedia:WikiProject Civil Rights MovementTemplate:WikiProject Civil Rights MovementCivil Rights Movement articles

Low

This article has been rated as Low-importance on the importance scale.

To-do list for Bernie Sanders:

No to-do list assigned.

WikiProject Civil Rights Movement to do list:

Edit the tasks list

Here are some tasks awaiting attention:

Article requests : All redlinked articles listed at User:Mitchumch/Movement templates#Civil Rights Movement need to be created.
Durham movement (North Carolina)
Greensboro movement (North Carolina) (currently a redirect)
Henry Hezekiah Dee (currently a redirect)
Delano Herman Middleton (currently a redirect)
Charles Eddie Moore (currently a redirect)
Henry Ezekial Smith (currently a redirect)
Cleanup : Rosa Parks, and upgrade to GA status
Black Arts Movement
Collaborate : Tagging all relevant articles with project template.
Expand : And the Walls Came Tumbling Down
Medgar Evers
The Children (Halberstam)
Cambridge movement (civil rights)
Browder v. Gayle
Strom Thurmond filibuster of the Civil Rights Act of 1957
Photo : Milton Galamison • J. Charles Jones • Gloria Richardson • Richard Durham • Freedom Riders • Freedom Summer • March Against Fear • Prayer Pilgrimage for Freedom • Youth March for Integrated Schools (1958) • Youth March for Integrated Schools (1959) • Birmingham riot of 1963 • 16th Street Baptist Church bombing (image of bombing) • Bloody Tuesday (1964) • Biloxi wade-ins (image of wade-ins) • Tallahassee bus boycott • Tent City (Tennessee) • Memphis sanitation strike (image of actual strike) • Americus movement • Hebrew Benevolent Congregation Temple bombing • Baton Rouge bus boycott • Orangeburg massacre • Mansfield school desegregation incident • Bloody Monday (Danville)

Jewish history Low‑importance

	Judaism portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Jewish history, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Jewish history on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.Jewish historyWikipedia:WikiProject Jewish historyTemplate:WikiProject Jewish historyJewish history-related articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

This article has been mentioned by a media organization:

Brad Jones (10 December 2015). "Beneath every presidential candidate's Wikipedia page lies a vicious tug-of-war". Digital Trends. Retrieved 10 December 2015. With some four thousand edits in the history of the Sanders entry alone, it can be difficult to understand exactly why individuals are sitting down at a computer to perfect Wikipedia's presentation of the man himself.

This article has been viewed enough times in a single year to make it into the Top 50 Report annual list. This happened in 2016, when it received 12,160,992 views.

This article has been viewed enough times in a single week to appear in the Top 25 Report 16 times. The weeks in which this happened:

Section sizes

Section size for Bernie Sanders (75 sections)
Section name	Byte count	Section total
(Top)	11,236	11,236
Early life	14,429	14,429
Early career	17	20,280
Political activism	11,446	11,446
Professional history and early years in Vermont	2,824	2,824
Liberty Union campaigns	5,993	5,993
Mayor of Burlington, Vermont (1981–1989)	255	24,122
Campaigns	11,922	11,922
Administration	11,945	11,945
U.S. House of Representatives (1991–2007)	210	24,927
Elections	3,523	3,523
Legislation	1,903	21,194
Banking reform	2,687	2,687
Cancer registries	1,804	1,804
Firearms and criminal justice	7,946	7,946
Opposition to the Patriot Act	2,981	2,981
Opposition to the War in Iraq	2,751	2,751
Trade policy	1,122	1,122
U.S. Senate (2007–present)	34	57,376
Elections	16	7,909
2006	4,579	4,579
2012	491	491
2018	529	529
2024	2,294	2,294
Legislation	6,348	34,156
Finance and monetary policy	8,427	8,427
Foreign policy	7,147	7,147
Health care	3,600	3,600
Immigration policy	1,130	1,130
Income and wealth distribution	5,432	5,432
Veterans affairs	2,072	2,072
Supreme Court nominees	3,468	3,468
Committee assignments	5,767	5,767
Caucus memberships	1,685	1,685
Approval ratings	4,357	4,357
2008 and 2012 presidential elections	745	745
2016 presidential campaign	10,382	55,762
Campaign methods	9,575	9,575
Presidential debates	2,984	2,984
Polls and news coverage	9,946	9,946
DNC email leak	1,919	1,919
Endorsement of Hillary Clinton	6,186	6,186
Post-election activities	8,330	8,330
Influence on the Democratic Party	6,440	6,440
2020 presidential campaign	4,002	25,269
Campaign methods	1,695	1,695
Fundraising	4,238	4,238
Polls and news coverage	5,487	5,487
Forums and other appearances	4,257	4,257
Presidential debates	2,853	2,853
Suspension of campaign	2,737	2,737
Political positions	12,859	61,369
Climate change	4,065	4,065
Economic issues	14,950	14,950
Foreign policy	9,486	9,486
Gun laws	3,682	3,682
Social issues	5,608	5,608
Trump administration	4,267	4,267
Biden administration	6,452	6,452
Party affiliations	13,117	13,117
Personal life	5,766	22,574
Health	4,417	4,417
Honors and awards	2,275	2,275
Religion, heritage, and values	10,116	10,116
In popular culture	1,045	7,034
Internet culture	3,382	3,382
In film and television	2,607	2,607
Publications	18	2,806
Books	1,656	1,656
Articles	1,132	1,132
See also	497	497
Explanatory notes	36	36
References	368	368
Further reading	1,070	1,070
External links	8,057	8,057
Total	351,074	351,074

incorrectly citing radio interview as direct accusation of blame within post election activities section.

in the section "Post-election activities" there is a false claim that Bernie sanders blamed the Clinton campaign for Russian interference. The section clearly uses language that asserts a stance and statement that does not exist in the sourced article tied to it or the sources of that source(direct quote: "he blamed the Clinton campaign for not doing more to prevent Russian interference." linking to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernie_Sanders#cite_note-:6-277).

excerpt from the above linked source reads the incorrect assertion provided:

“The real question to be asked is what was the Clinton campaign [doing about Russian interference]? They had more information about this than we did,” Sanders said in the interview with Vermont Public Radio.

end of excerpt.

having listened to the entire radio interview, reviewing the linked source for this claim, and the sources within that source there does not appear to be a single instance that could be viewed as a direct statement where Bernie Sanders Blamed the Clinton campaign, there may be statements that indicate a view that action should have been taken however that is in no way something that can be put forth as a statement of blame and leaving historical accounts incorrectly recounting the past hurts both Bernie Sanders image and record and opens the floor to project narratives that cannot be confirmed.

I ask that the article be corrected to remove the claim that he blamed the Clinton campaign for this issue or that statements made lead media outlets argue that his statements to assume such however as it stands the wording states him assigning blame as a matter of fact and that is incorrect. AnotherDevNalyd (talk) 23:19, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I changed it to

"Furthermore, he questioned the Clinton campaign's lack of action on preventing Russian interference."

Which is more faithful to Sanders' actual wording, as the previous editor obviously just read the title of the article and put it in. 300AD (talk) 22:26, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]